I'm in love with this visual novel. I have been playing since summer of 2020 and never missed an update. I especially love that the characters don't remain miserable and alone if you pick another route, but find happiness regardless. To me this says that they don't need you to be happy, that there is someone for everyone. But given the chance, they will choose you. Not out of necessity, but because they actually like you.
Absolutely my favorite VN! I've replayed Darius' route 3 times now, just to re-read everything. Spencer and Coach have gotten the same treatment. I love the story, the tension, the romance... Everything is well-paced and well-written. The characters are believable and have clear motivations for what they do. I just had to leave a comment for this one; I'm aspiring to write a VN myself and I hope I'm even half as good as this.
hey, was wondering if you guys have ever thought about making a discord server for your community? i highly recommend it, ive made some good friends from VN scene on discord
My god, I thought my favorite route was Spencer but then Darius pops out 😭😭
I can´t be more in love with that lion, I'm excited about what will happen in the epilogue, and thanks WolfBite for making a game this loving, I can´t believe i´ve been playing this for 2 years now 😭
Hey I noticed that on Spencer's route after day 10 (I think) the character expressions don't change and I'm sure it changed before so I don't know if something is wrong I really loved their silly expressions. Was it made like that or is just my game glitched?
It's not a bug. I don't know if it was intended or if it is just WIP, but Spencer really doesn't have many face emotions from that point. Who knows, maybe it will be added in the future with some route polishing and a new ending for this character, or maybe this is how the author conveys the secrecy of Spencer's nature ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
After day 30 the expressions are pretty much back like they used to be in the start
I really hope that the author will add the expressions to this route I think it makes the game more lively and natural but do you know if something like that happens in other routes?
I am diving deep into Harold's route and trying to notice these moments. But I just started getting acquainted with RenPy and coding in general. And with a poor knowledge in English and programming and with a lack of free time, it is difficult to browse through someone else's code. But I try my best to collect data at least for Papa Bear from beginning to the end credits. Only with the effort of the entire community this can be fixed. And I believe that someday it will happen. It's just not a high priority for Dyne to pay attention to right now.
Yeah that would be great and it's easier to know what the character thinks about the option but I'll hope that they will add the facial expressions when the author finishes the routes
This question may have been asked before so I'm sorry I just finished Chester's route and it said he would have an "Extra Day" is every character eventually going to get an Extra Day? or just Harold and Spencer?
This was so amazing and fun! I did the Harold route and it was really awesome. I wish there was a scene between the MC, Harold, and Richard since it was heavily hinted at. At least I can use my imagination though!
Despite the fact that I'm not a big fan of blondes or green eyes, I am in love with Harold because of his belly and because he is a bear. Love bear ʕ •ᴥ• ʔ. He's my personal favorite.
I like Richard because he looks so damn hot. I wish him be my daddy too (daddy with benefits ofc ).
I like Dwayne because of how sweet, adorable and honest he is.
I like Darius' route the most in terms of character progress. The best writing of all routes and getting to know him closer was the most pleasant experience.
And also I like our Godzilla because of how big, strong but gentle at the same time he is. And also because he is almost 80% similar in appearance, behaviour and personality to my boyfriend.
Plus dwayne cause like them chub and thick boys and spencer cause is he is f***ing cute and has a really fitting personality. Btw this game is easy one of the best VN's out there. First vn i played and it got so far . <3
Now that I think about it, I don't have any voice for the characters, now I'm going to imagine a voice when I'm playing the vn again haha. Although it would be best if they added official voice actors, they are not necessary but they would give more life to the vn
I can't/won't answer anything so vague. You're better off reaching out to ask him directly if you want a clear answer on whatever the issue is (otherwise all you get is hearsay or out-of-context screenshots). You can contact him on Twitter DM or FA notes.
What city/state/region is Cresthaven & surrounding cities based on?
Not sure if anyone has recognized this, but its weird to see Cresthaven and its surrounding cities are in the US. I only assumed it was somewhere in the Pacific Northwest, but I'm not so certain.
Darius' route does mention copperhead snakes. There's relatively close mountains for both a hotspring in Chester's route, along with the mountain hiked in Darius' route. The Cresthaven background CGs just sorta look very idyllic and vibrant for a city, though I'm not sure if I can place my finger on what the architecture resembles. I also think that considering there's a production studio near by and Cresthaven is near 'Sierra' - maybe California's northern parts?
It is obvious that Dyne used USA as the basis of geography and culture, since he is from there and it is just closer to him (am i right?). Wherever the city is located is not important in the narrative, and also allows us to imagine it to be wherever we want it to be
Oh, I'm well aware it isn't relevant or functional to the narrative, but I was wondering if there's any indication about the visual inspiration - if at all.
All characters will get their own epilogue eventually. However, I doubt that it will happen soon. Especially Darius, whose route was completed last in the five main characters roster. Sometimes you can sneak peek plans for the next updates in ExcA's update schedule.
this capture is not mine but, how do i get the bear and the collar in the "extras" screen? i already did the perfect ending for both of them i got the bear in the date with harold and the collar with spencer in their routes, but i still can´t get them on this screen.
I do not know how and where you got this screen, since the variables responsible for the output of these "objects" on the screen are in the game code, but I haven't found where they are triggered. Only variables for good(best and neutral) endings are working (that is what you got in your game). Most likely it is a bug or this was intended for now (cause these "objects" were already included in 1.143).
Idk if it is a bug or not. Dyne added variables for these events, but did not add a place in the routes where they would be triggered ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. It was done on purpose or he just forgot about it - only he knows.
PS At first i thought he just forgot the name of the first variable and added another one. But in the final there is no "check" on these two items for these two characters. He was probably just busy with other things related to it. I was pleasantly surprised to find that the completion of the route can somehow affect the events in the route of another character (not just bara godmother update on day 3). Such a weave breaks my fourth wall .
Someone help me, I played Spencer's route, but in the end, I didn't get any of the marriage proposal scenes (neither the one in the park, nor the one in the club) and I don't know what I did wrong, if it was some wrong choice. I would really like to know, if anyone knows, please tell me, I need it!
It's not exactly one wrong choice, its all your choices in total. Thus, you will not be able to replay from some certain point. You will have to play from the beginning and try a little bit harder to deserve his true love and these sweet scenes.
This makes me a little sad, because I tried to follow the best choices on the route, maybe a few that I didn't think influenced the story so much, those were really my opinion, I always tried to give Spencer a lot of support with what he liked. But after playing the epilogue and thinking a little, I think maybe it has something to do with the choices related to Darius, but I'm going to try to do some tests to find out, do you think maybe I'm right?
I didn't inspect Spenser route choices so deep. I am also didn't get the best ending for him in a first try. Maybe someday i will go through his route code, but right now i didn't have certain advice for you except just play the game and engoy your time with him. Or try some other routers and comeback to him with fresh look on every decision. But if you want his best ending so much - visit Dyne's patreon. There are guides for best endings at some level of support.
Okay, thanks anyway for answering me, at the moment I've already finished all the routes, so I'll leave that for the next time I play, I'll pay close attention. This game is amazing and I will definitely play it again!😁
Hey I absolutely love this visual novel the characters and routes are great. The story is very interesting, and I like how down to earth it is, but I have question just out of curiosity...
What are the "canon," pairings? I'd love to know what the team considers to be the "one true pairing," for each of the characters!
Spoiler Below:
I will say my only gripe with the game is how Darius goes in on Isaac in the hospital? Like I get he's mad, but it was borderline damn near misogyny. "Sissy, bitch, f****t, c**t," etc. It reeeeally threw me off with this game especially since I actually see some of the characters as a bit effeminate than masculine.
i think the canon one is probably with spencer ngl, cuz then chester is with dozer and darius is well... himelf and doesn't really feel like he needs someone until the mc sticks around him a ton and makes him rely on him idk, darius is kinda good by himself, and spence and the mc kinda just go hand in hand
I partially agree about Spencer. After changing day 3 and removing the "nobody loves you" ending, Spencer became the "default" route of the game. That's it. This does not mean that he has become a canon. And I don't agree about Darius. He hold his face so no one can hurt his feelings. And just look at his interaction with Spencer in every routes. Even you asked yourself "and what about lion?". These two deserve each other. And based on that(not only that, there are a lot more reasons), my personal canon is:Spencer+Darius | Chester+Dozer | MC+Harold | Maria+Richard | Dwayne+(idk)Primal? :)
if you play through the routes I still think Darius is just needing someone to care about. He has a hard time showing how he actually feels but he goes out of his way to help out the MC in literally every route you go down. I do have a minor gripe about the Dozer route (after you do Chester's) but that's just because it's hypocritical of what was said like 1 or 2 days before.
Hi, someone has encountered an error with the Richard scenes, not in his route but in the other routes. When Richard is supposed to appear in a scene, the game displays an error message from the RenPy engine. I don't know why this is happening, or if it's because I used save states from other versions, or if something went wrong with the game. By the way, I'm using the Android version. If you have a solution, can you please contact me on my Telegram haha (: @MMNOTHINGHERE) or through this platform as well.
Oh Richard Richard. He is a big headache. I don't remember that any other character caused so many mistakes. Even not in his own route. I don't know anything about coding, but my idea is the same as yours. Saves work very strange sometimes. Just for the record, sometimes I can't load saves on PC, depending on how I launched the game - through the exe or through the game engine itself. I am not even gonna talk about opening old save files. I am pretty sure if you start a new game on the latest version, there will be no any problems. I don't think anyone will have any other solution for you right now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Try to skip to the same point and tell us if that helped. I'm curious.
Yes I have. Thanks for the help, I will start with Harold's route and then going down with each route, prolly will need like 4 months to have all my save games cause I love to save every single scene that I considered necessary.
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I'm in love with this visual novel. I have been playing since summer of 2020 and never missed an update. I especially love that the characters don't remain miserable and alone if you pick another route, but find happiness regardless. To me this says that they don't need you to be happy, that there is someone for everyone. But given the chance, they will choose you. Not out of necessity, but because they actually like you.
Darius bro 🥰🗣️🗣️
Gosh, Richard is just so.... perfect! ☺️ his accent, his dad-bod, his domineering nature, his caring side [squeals in fanboy] 😍
yep 🥴
Absolutely my favorite VN! I've replayed Darius' route 3 times now, just to re-read everything. Spencer and Coach have gotten the same treatment. I love the story, the tension, the romance... Everything is well-paced and well-written. The characters are believable and have clear motivations for what they do. I just had to leave a comment for this one; I'm aspiring to write a VN myself and I hope I'm even half as good as this.
hey, was wondering if you guys have ever thought about making a discord server for your community? i highly recommend it, ive made some good friends from VN scene on discord
How do I get the Dwayne route started? I tried to do everything, but I get locked into someone else's route.
You should hang with the coach on day 2 You will meet Dwayne eventually
ooh okay. thank you
It is the 16th for me, so... Happy 42nd birthday, Papa Bear! ʕ •ᴥ• ʔ We will love you to end of time, and we hope you never forget that.
GOD I love this game. All the characters are LEGENDARY But I feel a specific type of bond with Darius that I can't shake.
I'm in love with harvey
Daym it was love at first sight now I don't care about dozer i just want harvey
Harvey was so handsome and yet dozer let him go
Dozer was at fault here too because the love he showed for harvey was not enough
My god, I thought my favorite route was Spencer but then Darius pops out 😭😭
I can´t be more in love with that lion, I'm excited about what will happen in the epilogue, and thanks WolfBite for making a game this loving, I can´t believe i´ve been playing this for 2 years now 😭
So me, love that lion with all my life.
Hey I noticed that on Spencer's route after day 10 (I think) the character expressions don't change and I'm sure it changed before so I don't know if something is wrong I really loved their silly expressions. Was it made like that or is just my game glitched?
It's not a bug. I don't know if it was intended or if it is just WIP, but Spencer really doesn't have many face emotions from that point. Who knows, maybe it will be added in the future with some route polishing and a new ending for this character, or maybe this is how the author conveys the secrecy of Spencer's nature ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
After day 30 the expressions are pretty much back like they used to be in the start
I really hope that the author will add the expressions to this route I think it makes the game more lively and natural but do you know if something like that happens in other routes?
I am diving deep into Harold's route and trying to notice these moments. But I just started getting acquainted with RenPy and coding in general. And with a poor knowledge in English and programming and with a lack of free time, it is difficult to browse through someone else's code. But I try my best to collect data at least for Papa Bear from beginning to the end credits. Only with the effort of the entire community this can be fixed. And I believe that someday it will happen. It's just not a high priority for Dyne to pay attention to right now.
Here is a good example of how I would like to see facial expressions in some dialogues
Yeah that would be great and it's easier to know what the character thinks about the option but I'll hope that they will add the facial expressions when the author finishes the routes
Thanks a lot
which characters have finished endings so far
and is there a list off all there names i often forget who is who
🐻 Harold Grifter - [Days 35/35 + epilogue]
🐕 Spencer Caldon - [Days 35/35 + epilogue]
🦖 Dozer Dozer - [Days 35/35]
🐃 Chester Hayes - [Days 35/35]
🦁 Darius Maynor - [Days 35/35]
🦏 Richard Harding - [Days 18/35]
🦍 Dwayne Lockwood - [Days 12/35]
This question may have been asked before so I'm sorry I just finished Chester's route and it said he would have an "Extra Day" is every character eventually going to get an Extra Day? or just Harold and Spencer?
Epilogues. Yes, over time (for the best endings).
(Spoilers I think?)
This was so amazing and fun! I did the Harold route and it was really awesome. I wish there was a scene between the MC, Harold, and Richard since it was heavily hinted at. At least I can use my imagination though!
ackk didn't expect that this game will be such a great vn
I LOVE HAROLDD!! he an Ideal PAPA BEAR!!🥴
SO TRUE!! Harold is the BEST character
Love your profile pic ✌️🔥
questions: who is your favorite character in the game, I personally love Harold and Dwayne the most, but what about you guys? 🐻🎾🦍
I'm curious... 🤔
Despite the fact that I'm not a big fan of blondes or green eyes, I am in love with Harold because of his belly and because he is a bear. Love bear ʕ •ᴥ• ʔ. He's my personal favorite.
I like Richard because he looks so damn hot. I wish him be my daddy too (daddy with benefits ofc
).
I like Dwayne because of how sweet, adorable and honest he is.
I like Darius' route the most in terms of character progress. The best writing of all routes and getting to know him closer was the most pleasant experience.
And also I like our Godzilla because of how big, strong but gentle at the same time he is. And also because he is almost 80% similar in appearance, behaviour and personality to my boyfriend
.
wait godzilla what there's a godzilla
Hello from Dozer
ohhhhh
My favorite character is Spencer, I love his personality and his story and route is so perfect 💜💜
Definitly Darius, im completly in love with him and his route, love pervert lion.
Then probably at second its Maria, she is an angel made cat woman.
tbh my fav character in the game is Harold, i love him and his occasional silly personality, I can't resist to papa bear 🐻 haha
^^^^^^^^^^^^(dont have to say more)
Plus dwayne cause like them chub and thick boys and spencer cause is he is f***ing cute and has a really fitting personality. Btw this game is easy one of the best VN's out there. First vn i played and it got so far . <3
really like this, especially the dirty moments:D i like dozer, dwayne, and both new paths, i just like big burly men being kinky...
Dwayne route please..! 🙈🤎
He's so bbgirl😩❤️🔥
Will there be an update this month?
Update is posted!
Given the trend of the last two years, there won't be an October update
It's there now. I just forgot with what all I have going on, haha
Do you have any headcanon voices for the guys? Like a VA who's voice you hear when reading a character's lines and whatnot
Now that I think about it, I don't have any voice for the characters, now I'm going to imagine a voice when I'm playing the vn again haha. Although it would be best if they added official voice actors, they are not necessary but they would give more life to the vn
I can't/won't answer anything so vague. You're better off reaching out to ask him directly if you want a clear answer on whatever the issue is (otherwise all you get is hearsay or out-of-context screenshots). You can contact him on Twitter DM or FA notes.
So many nerdy references, and I've cracked them all but one. What the hell is Knights of Thornvale referencing? Please, I need to know!
That doesn't reference anything, hah. I made it up just for Chester!
(INCREDIBLY MINOR SPOILERS)
What city/state/region is Cresthaven & surrounding cities based on?
Not sure if anyone has recognized this, but its weird to see Cresthaven and its surrounding cities are in the US. I only assumed it was somewhere in the Pacific Northwest, but I'm not so certain.
Darius' route does mention copperhead snakes.
There's relatively close mountains for both a hotspring in Chester's route, along with the mountain hiked in Darius' route.
The Cresthaven background CGs just sorta look very idyllic and vibrant for a city, though I'm not sure if I can place my finger on what the architecture resembles.
I also think that considering there's a production studio near by and Cresthaven is near 'Sierra' - maybe California's northern parts?
Anyone got any ideas?
It is obvious that Dyne used USA as the basis of geography and culture, since he is from there and it is just closer to him (am i right?). Wherever the city is located is not important in the narrative, and also allows us to imagine it to be wherever we want it to be
Oh, I'm well aware it isn't relevant or functional to the narrative, but I was wondering if there's any indication about the visual inspiration - if at all.
Especially since on the main menu we see the US flag in front of the school
It's not really based on anything. I just... made it how I wanted, haha
In Darius Route, it is expected to have an epilogue? I love so much the character and how it went the route that I hope we get one.
All characters will get their own epilogue eventually. However, I doubt that it will happen soon. Especially Darius, whose route was completed last in the five main characters roster. Sometimes you can sneak peek plans for the next updates in ExcA's update schedule.
Well, at least we will we one. That's enough for me. Thank you for letting me know :D
(SPOILERS FOR THE ENDING OF HAROLD AND SPENCER)
this capture is not mine but, how do i get the bear and the collar in the "extras" screen? i already did the perfect ending for both of them i got the bear in the date with harold and the collar with spencer in their routes, but i still can´t get them on this screen.
I do not know how and where you got this screen, since the variables responsible for the output of these "objects" on the screen are in the game code, but I haven't found where they are triggered. Only variables for good(best and neutral) endings are working (that is what you got in your game). Most likely it is a bug or this was intended for now (cause these "objects" were already included in 1.143).
I found them on a forum. So from what I understand they cannot be obtained for now, possibly due to a bug? If so, thank you for clarifying it for me.
Idk if it is a bug or not. Dyne added variables for these events, but did not add a place in the routes where they would be triggered ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. It was done on purpose or he just forgot about it - only he knows.
PS At first i thought he just forgot the name of the first variable and added another one. But in the final there is no "check" on these two items for these two characters. He was probably just busy with other things related to it. I was pleasantly surprised to find that the completion of the route can somehow affect the events in the route of another character (not just bara godmother update on day 3). Such a weave breaks my fourth wall
I'm having trouble downloading the apk file, is there any other place i can download the current version?
Love the game. But I can't help but be obsessed with Maria no matter who I'm going after. She's actually the best and 10/10 love her so much
I have a problem that everytime i choose darius at the selection it automatically goes to spencer's how do i fix that?
I just need to say that I rlly loved Harold's route!! Even it made me cry haha
I like him too. But if I had a boyfriend Iwould left him if he let me sleeping alone in the couch in place of hugged with him all night.
what did the update add?
o nvm i found the development log
Someone help me, I played Spencer's route, but in the end, I didn't get any of the marriage proposal scenes (neither the one in the park, nor the one in the club) and I don't know what I did wrong, if it was some wrong choice. I would really like to know, if anyone knows, please tell me, I need it!
It's not exactly one wrong choice, its all your choices in total. Thus, you will not be able to replay from some certain point. You will have to play from the beginning and try a little bit harder to deserve his true love and these sweet scenes.
This makes me a little sad, because I tried to follow the best choices on the route, maybe a few that I didn't think influenced the story so much, those were really my opinion, I always tried to give Spencer a lot of support with what he liked. But after playing the epilogue and thinking a little, I think maybe it has something to do with the choices related to Darius, but I'm going to try to do some tests to find out, do you think maybe I'm right?
I didn't inspect Spenser route choices so deep. I am also didn't get the best ending for him in a first try. Maybe someday i will go through his route code, but right now i didn't have certain advice for you except just play the game and engoy your time with him. Or try some other routers and comeback to him with fresh look on every decision. But if you want his best ending so much - visit Dyne's patreon. There are guides for best endings at some level of support.
Okay, thanks anyway for answering me, at the moment I've already finished all the routes, so I'll leave that for the next time I play, I'll pay close attention. This game is amazing and I will definitely play it again!😁
I love the new Dwayne update🦍❤️😍
Once again great work WolfBite 👍
so it seems like Pool Daddy Leon know Primal.. personally a lot.. oh god.. it will be hilarious... also hot if Leon will invite his friend to pool
Hey I absolutely love this visual novel the characters and routes are great. The story is very interesting, and I like how down to earth it is, but I have question just out of curiosity...
What are the "canon," pairings? I'd love to know what the team considers to be the "one true pairing," for each of the characters!
Spoiler Below:
I will say my only gripe with the game is how Darius goes in on Isaac in the hospital? Like I get he's mad, but it was borderline damn near misogyny. "Sissy, bitch, f****t, c**t," etc. It reeeeally threw me off with this game especially since I actually see some of the characters as a bit effeminate than masculine.
i think the canon one is probably with spencer ngl, cuz then chester is with dozer and darius is well... himelf and doesn't really feel like he needs someone until the mc sticks around him a ton and makes him rely on him idk, darius is kinda good by himself, and spence and the mc kinda just go hand in hand
I partially agree about Spencer. After changing day 3 and removing the "nobody loves you" ending, Spencer became the "default" route of the game. That's it. This does not mean that he has become a canon. And I don't agree about Darius. He hold his face so no one can hurt his feelings. And just look at his interaction with Spencer in every routes. Even you asked yourself "and what about lion?". These two deserve each other. And based on that(not only that, there are a lot more reasons), my personal canon is: Spencer+Darius | Chester+Dozer | MC+Harold | Maria+Richard | Dwayne+(idk)Primal? :)
if you play through the routes I still think Darius is just needing someone to care about. He has a hard time showing how he actually feels but he goes out of his way to help out the MC in literally every route you go down. I do have a minor gripe about the Dozer route (after you do Chester's) but that's just because it's hypocritical of what was said like 1 or 2 days before.
I genuinely don't like Dozer's route because of the same thing
DyneWulf said that Spencer was his personal canon in a interview! So I guess MC and Spencer are canon
Totally agree, they are canon! They belong to each other *_*
Hi, someone has encountered an error with the Richard scenes, not in his route but in the other routes. When Richard is supposed to appear in a scene, the game displays an error message from the RenPy engine. I don't know why this is happening, or if it's because I used save states from other versions, or if something went wrong with the game. By the way, I'm using the Android version. If you have a solution, can you please contact me on my Telegram haha (: @MMNOTHINGHERE) or through this platform as well.
Oh Richard Richard. He is a big headache
. I don't remember that any other character caused so many mistakes. Even not in his own route. I don't know anything about coding, but my idea is the same as yours. Saves work very strange sometimes. Just for the record, sometimes I can't load saves on PC, depending on how I launched the game - through the exe or through the game engine itself. I am not even gonna talk about opening old save files. I am pretty sure if you start a new game on the latest version, there will be no any problems. I don't think anyone will have any other solution for you right now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Try to skip to the same point and tell us if that helped. I'm curious.
I did, but it means that I have to skip all the scenes of Richard. I think I'm gonna have to play every route.
I found the solution! You NEED to start a new game.
https://dynewulf.itch.io/extracurricular-activities/devlog/264338/update-to-1117
Oh my... 2 years ago. I almost forgot about this. Where have you been all this time?! I'm so jealous! You have so much new content to experience
...
Yes I have. Thanks for the help, I will start with Harold's route and then going down with each route, prolly will need like 4 months to have all my save games cause I love to save every single scene that I considered necessary.
Want to cry after playing the Spencer route 😭
what is the name of the song that plays in the menu and where could you download it
rip
😭